Posts by Pork Chop

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This is horrible....

by desib77 in

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i know that the issue of the man being beheaded by the iraqis has been discussed already but they just played the sound of the beheading on talk radio (shawn hannity).

this is absolutely horrible.....the sound of him screaming just makes me ill.

Hannity gave considerable warning before he played the audio, and he's not the only one that has played it either so you can knock of the Hannity bashing. I think it's important that people understand just how horrible that this event was, that they also understand that this is not the first thing like this that's happened and it probably won't be the last. These people are evil. They were smiling, they enjoyed. And they'll do it to anyone in the US that they get a chance to kill. The despise and hate the liberals just as much as the conservatives, and they think they're weaker. I've lived and worked in the Middle East and have friends that are Middle Eastern and I have seen over and over again that the only thing that is respected is strength.

Liberals like patio and six are willfully blind, they will make excuses for the perpetrators, regardless, and they will blame the US, regardless. They will seize any opportunity to condemn the US and the conservatives but in the end they'll expect to be protected by the same. They scurry under the cover of better people, and that includes civilians who are willing to go to Iraq and make a difference, who are willing to take a risk to make a profit. And if you think that makes them responsible for the butchery infllicted on them by terrorist scum then your political bigotry has stamped out your humanity.

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WBTS Rand Cam Scandal

by nemo in

this is my first time posting on any site.

i am still one of jehovah's witnesses but am inquiring about information about rand cam.

i have recently been questioning my faith and the organization, due to some situations.

Pork Chop

Like I said, hasn't been deployed. Just checked it again. You evidently can't read and understand simple text. I'm finished talking to an obvious moron.

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JW Mental Health

by Evesapple in

i found these two references very interesting.....i reflected on the mentality of the witnesses in my old congregations in janesville, wisconsin....i realised they weren't a 'happy' people because they had the "truth", they were in truth happy because of being all medicated (prozac).

http://www.rickross.com/reference/jw/jw73.html

http://www.rickross.com/reference/jw/jw72.html

Pork Chop

You can take a hike 4JWY. I don't need your permission to comment, Bergman is an obsessed little jerk.

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FORMER ELDERS CAN YOU PLEASE HELP??

by MZINDEPENDENT in

jw
friends

hello, i am writing because i was disfellowshipped a week and a half ago.

i have not been to the meeting in over two and a half years.

you would think they would leave me alone.

Pork Chop

The only way you can sue is if you can demonstrate that they have violated their own procedures, or if they hold you up to public ridicule. Given what you've said about the chain of events I'd say you don't have any legal avenue. Oh, and public ridicule is not simply announcing you've been disfellowshipped. As far as appealing goes, failure to meet would be considered a sign that you were not repentant.

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Culling and Hunting.... your opinions?

by FMZ in

i am sure this post will anger a few people, and i respect that some find the idea of killing an animal repulsive.

all i ask is that, if you reply, you concentrate more on what you think of hunting and culling, rather than posting insults that i am a brute etc.

unfortunately it is a sad fact of life, that sometimes it is necessary to kill one or many animals to make sure things stay in balance.

Pork Chop

This guy should kill his own cats, however, feral cats are extremely destructive to wildlife so if he won't do it himself then I think someone needs to. Shooting is humane if it is properly done, I can't believe someone recommended poisoning, that's really nasty business.

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Circuit Overseer Explains How The Internet Is A Trap!

by minimus in

jw
friends

my mother told me that the co gave a talk on how a spider spins his web and it can take a very long time for the web to be made but just like that--- before you know it---it can catch its prey and devour it.

it's the same with the world wide web, the internet.

there are reports, according to the co, that in new york, a very prominent "anointed" man was disfellowshipped and he has his owm website where he has answered many jws questions.

Pork Chop

Hah, I read Visions of Glory at the library to! Pretty disappointed to tell you the truth, I didn't think it was very good.

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Torture to find WMD?

by Greenpalmtreestillmine in

do you think those iraqi's were tortured to find wmd?.

the rank and file soldier was following the orders of the hired interrogation contractors (who are outside of military law) to soften up the prisoners.

what were they looking for this past year?

Pork Chop

Hey I found out today that Alan Dershowitz of all people says torture is OK under certain circumstances, that it's Consitutional. Who'd of thought that?

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JW Mental Health

by Evesapple in

i found these two references very interesting.....i reflected on the mentality of the witnesses in my old congregations in janesville, wisconsin....i realised they weren't a 'happy' people because they had the "truth", they were in truth happy because of being all medicated (prozac).

http://www.rickross.com/reference/jw/jw73.html

http://www.rickross.com/reference/jw/jw72.html

Pork Chop

For about the 100th time, Bergman is not very credible. His degree has nothing to do with psychology or psychiatry and he's been thrown out of the expert witness business.

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FORMER ELDERS CAN YOU PLEASE HELP??

by MZINDEPENDENT in

jw
friends

hello, i am writing because i was disfellowshipped a week and a half ago.

i have not been to the meeting in over two and a half years.

you would think they would leave me alone.

Pork Chop

I wouldn't say it was quite that open and shut. The first thing an appeal committee does is determine whether or not a disfellowshipping matter was involved. The second is to decide whether the individual was repentant at the time of the original meeting. That's the way it usually goes, and the error in determining repentance has to be 'gross' for the decision to be overturned. Since in this case it doesn't seem like you had an opportunity to actually have a meeting then an appeal committee might just say that it wasn't possible to disfellowship under the circumstances. Be aware that something that comes out in an appeal hearing can also be used to disfellowship, even if it is a new matter.

I know of two instances in which committees very obviously acted without any evidence at all were simply overturned at the direction of the CO.

I know of one case in which a committee acted on an individual without a hearing, imposing restrictions which went on for a very long time. In that particular case the Organizatoin eventually directed that their action be reversed but the CO had to stand on their heads of the local committee to actually make them comply. The Service Desk acted pretty quickly once they got the straight story but it took a couple of years for the individual to actually talk to the CO.

I don't know if any of that helps but at least it's more information.

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The pronunciation of the Tetragrammaton according to Gérard Gertoux

by Narkissos in

jw
friends

some time ago i stumbled across a book by french author gerard gertoux, about the pronunciation of the tetragrammaton.

the book was also published in english (cf.

the author's site at http://gertoux.online.fr/divinename/) .

Pork Chop

I have a copy of the book, haven't read it yet. This is not new idea, there was an article in Biblical Archaeology on it a couple of years ago. I think quite a few scholars are convinced that it is a three syllable name.